“Confessionals are alright cos in the box you can’t see facial expressions,” he says. “Trying to keep a straight face if I’m doing it less formally...that’s not easy.”

He’s talking crap. He’s taken plenty of confessions, but few of them in a formal confessional setting. Lots of people who thought they might die. Lots of guilty friends and family members. He takes it seriously. Maybe Joan can tell — or maybe she can’t. His voice is very light.